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US and China ... Energy Research Partnership

inhabitat.com -- By Brit Liggett

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"The United States and China are the top countries when it comes to world oil consumption, and the idea behind the partnership has been that these two large countries can find a common ground to work together to solve similar problems."

"Yesterday, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced that the two countries have formed the U.S.-China Clean Energy Research Center and will both provide a total of $100 million dollars in funding to research to get both energy hungry countries on the path to a greener future."

"We’re all for the University of Michigan figuring out the future of clean vehicles — especially when considering how much petroleum the US and China’s consume..."

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Submitted Sep 04, 2010 By: UncleCurt

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52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,909 Points:1,277,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:39:38 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse "Yesterday, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu announced that the two countries have formed the U.S.-China Clean Energy Research Center and will both provide a total of $100 million dollars in funding to research to get both energy hungry countries on the path to a greener future." Just what we need - another government research center.
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:4,235 Points:716,390 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 6:29:30 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse Great the US government is going to Borrow another tenth of trillion dollars, The Chinese do not strict have emission controls, why should they worry their cars and plan are more fuel efficient out of the box.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 5:47:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse MAC48: that's b/c most ppl don't understand what is going on in the world - at least not beyond the TV set.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 5:46:36 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse TheSicilian: the US already handed the keys to China - when we sent all manufacturing to them and started to buy things at Wally-World.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,540 Points:389,685 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:23:50 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Let's hope that this partnership will be viable.
MalibuGordie Champion Author California Posts:5,078 Points:1,052,310 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:16:29 PM Ignore MalibuGordie Report Abuse I'm wondering what makes our gov't think we can negotiate with China.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,026 Points:1,003,300 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:11:35 PM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse soon china will own th US then what
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:10:43 PM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse Sounds like a winner, if it is realistic!
Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,183 Points:1,421,070 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:08:56 PM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse Don't turn your back on them.
WCCurtis Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:3,304 Points:1,361,795 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:08:11 PM Ignore WCCurtis Report Abuse This is hard to believe with China buying up every bit of Crude Oil and Coal that they can find, even whole Companies.
LuckyTahoeGirl Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,604 Points:479,570 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:06:41 PM Ignore LuckyTahoeGirl Report Abuse that is a lot of money!!!!
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,673 Points:2,006,475 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:03:51 PM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Hopefully a good combination...
MAC48 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:728 Points:499,925 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 10:35:13 AM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse A number of commenters berate any effort that would help clean up the use of coal. The facts are that the use of coal in the amounts used now & probably greater will be with us for as long as anyone can guess. Any thing that can be done to mitigate the harmful effects of coal use makes a great deal of sense. If sharing advances in technology that make using coal cleaner in terms of emissions helps the Chinese make their use of coal cleaner and reduce the amount of emissions drift across the Pacific into the US & Canada, then we absolutely need to do it. We will not live long enough, nor will our children & grand children, to see the day that the use of coal is replaced to any appreciable degree by solar, wind, geothermal or water generated electricity due to relationship of the cost of coal use versus cost of cleaner alternatives.
Hilsgal Sophomore Author Utah Posts:229 Points:236,590 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:35:30 AM Ignore Hilsgal Report Abuse How about if the Chinese first clean up their own act?? And stop taking so many shortcuts. (leadpaint) Is there more to be said???
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:4,049 Points:830,345 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:26:29 AM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse The US will do all the work in this partnership and the Chinese will standby and reap all the benefits. That's the way the Chinese operate.
I10Express Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,311 Points:1,175,020 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:22:43 AM Ignore I10Express Report Abuse Weeeeeee! More tax money to spend. But seriously, how much tax money is Obama going to pork barrel back into his base support area.
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:4,320 Points:1,119,760 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:21:06 AM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse China continues to hoard coal. Need to find a way to make it clean.
Tnerbeel Champion Author Houston Posts:6,355 Points:1,284,960 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:15:12 AM Ignore Tnerbeel Report Abuse An exercise in futility
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:21,263 Points:2,451,790 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:11:59 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse China primarily powers itself with coal. The do use oil for motive power and do generate some electricity via nuclear. But OK, what's the point? Are they going to try to coax China in to "clean coal" technology? Hey, if it's good enough for them, it ought to be good enough for us.
DirtDauber Champion Author San Antonio Posts:4,410 Points:1,161,275 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:09:29 AM Ignore DirtDauber Report Abuse Just another way to spend the Taxpayers dollars. I wonder if this situation is even worth dealing with. What do they hope to accomplish?
mackconsult Champion Author Portland Posts:3,698 Points:704,185 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:09:21 AM Ignore mackconsult Report Abuse What would they do with the results?
LongPlay Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,894 Points:841,045 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:09:05 AM Ignore LongPlay Report Abuse China will work with us as long as it is to their advantage. Proceed slowly and be careful what you give them.
applejoe Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,630 Points:766,320 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:08:50 AM Ignore applejoe Report Abuse US and China? Give me a break!!!!!!!
Cyberkedi Champion Author Atlanta Posts:11,963 Points:2,030,675 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:08:22 AM Ignore Cyberkedi Report Abuse Don't trust China? I can understand the feeling - but China won't be communist forever. They are economically capitalist, and eventually the communist system will die the death of a thousand cuts. I am leery of the Chinese government - but not the Chinese people. They are smart, and besides, it is much better to work with them than against them.
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:5,553 Points:1,636,230 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:07:14 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse This actually makes sense.
grandmacbc Champion Author Buffalo Posts:4,264 Points:999,155 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:07:14 AM Ignore grandmacbc Report Abuse Did you all see the 60 Minutes story on their spying? They probably already know what we are doing and will they be honest with us?????
tomklo All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:790 Points:2,144,000 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:05:04 AM Ignore tomklo Report Abuse Don't trust them either
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:3,779 Points:1,204,745 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:05:03 AM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse Clean? That is an oxymoron in China.
eddyp94 Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,753 Points:1,381,885 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 9:02:11 AM Ignore eddyp94 Report Abuse I don't trust china...
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,135 Points:1,217,150 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:59:47 AM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Sounds like a really good idea.
Dipstick1 Champion Author Amarillo Posts:6,621 Points:1,760,010 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:58:46 AM Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse I don't like it.
sivart Champion Author Arkansas Posts:15,138 Points:2,612,855 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:56:59 AM Ignore sivart Report Abuse The US and China should get together and tell OPEC what we will pay for crude? If we stop buying for one day it will put a big hurt on them!
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:6,505 Points:1,946,595 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:56:08 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Another tax dollar give away?
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,799 Points:1,182,185 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:55:39 AM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse Talk about strange bed partners...
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,218 Points:2,155,660 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:54:15 AM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse Give it a few years and we will be the United States of China.
RCSW818 Sophomore Author Dayton Posts:220 Points:873,955 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:52:53 AM Ignore RCSW818 Report Abuse China has already left US in the dust in the alternate energy race. Why do we need to partner up with them. They have all the $ & jobs in the world, let them foot the bill for once. It's not like anyone here in the US is going to benefit from it anyway, except of course wall st & washington. That is the only time the give out $ is when it's going to benefit them. I think the end result will be China will end up with the technology & the US will end up with the bill.
twiper1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,477 Points:1,139,535 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:52:37 AM Ignore twiper1 Report Abuse Can we trust China?
slgas Champion Author Houston Posts:3,651 Points:1,096,390 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:50:59 AM Ignore slgas Report Abuse This is clearly going in the right direction.
NatureBoyKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,649 Points:975,715 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:49:39 AM Ignore NatureBoyKY Report Abuse China's consumption is going to go up up up. We all better hope that global warming is a myth or has another cause, like cow farts.
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,772 Points:747,390 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:49:00 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse China. Clean energy? hmm.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:13,855 Points:2,723,765 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:45:40 AM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse This isn't going to be good!
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:4,867 Points:1,096,600 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:43:56 AM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse I'm with you there,chilipop. Clean coal is is like mixing water with dirt.
murdershewrote Champion Author Riverside Posts:7,262 Points:2,144,760 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:43:50 AM Ignore murdershewrote Report Abuse bet china gets better part of any deal
ChilePop All-Star Author Georgia Posts:666 Points:943,110 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:41:49 AM Ignore ChilePop Report Abuse Half of the money goes for "clean coal technology" which is an oxymoron.
gas_too_high Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,178 Points:1,478,715 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:40:13 AM Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse China historically has not been a good partner. They instead co-opt or steal outright, technology and trade secrets from their Western "partners". China is not to be trusted. GTH
MJIOWA Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,619 Points:641,345 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:39:28 AM Ignore MJIOWA Report Abuse MAYBE JUST MAYBE
CharlieC08 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,383 Points:1,152,250 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:38:43 AM Ignore CharlieC08 Report Abuse Obummer has given us up to China.
Grismer Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:6,263 Points:1,272,520 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:32:26 AM Ignore Grismer Report Abuse From prior history, China has not been open to independent verification of any accords. I remain skeptical on this agreement, also.
Hunter114 Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,535 Points:992,935 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:32:14 AM Ignore Hunter114 Report Abuse Looks like another waste of money.
montytexas Champion Author Houston Posts:1,888 Points:1,075,755 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Sep 4, 2010 8:31:55 AM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Time will tell more about this one....