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GM's Lutz says hybrids, electrics are future

Detroit News -- General Motors Co. will keep making big trucks and SUVs because U.S. buyers demand them, but a major portion of them will be gas-electric hybrids in the near future, retiring Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said.

Lutz didn't give details, but said GM must apply hybrid technology to more vehicles in order to meet fuel-economy standards that will rise 40 percent to an average of 35 miles per gallon by 2020. The cost will likely be spread across GM's lineup, since charging individual buyers for a hybrid system would make vehicles too expensive. GM has seven hybrids in its lineup now.

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Submitted Mar 13, 2010 By: MyVue08

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:26:06 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse we can hope that the more they make, the more the price comes down, kelsielee. But there's lots of R&D that we're paying for in these vehicles. If it were more spread across all models (even to the tune of massive consumer outcries) then it would bring the price down some).
kelsielee Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,389 Points:672,025 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:21:44 PM Ignore kelsielee Report Abuse Maybe hybrids and electric vehicles will become less expensive and they become more common (and economies of scale kick in). Otherwise, I will only be able to afford them once they are used vehicles.
ENORMS Champion Author Colorado Posts:3,014 Points:1,172,310 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:26:14 AM Ignore ENORMS Report Abuse True statement!!
FuelBarge Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,801 Points:1,609,390 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 1:42:57 PM Ignore FuelBarge Report Abuse Okay GM, what have you done to Mr. Lutz?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 1:32:41 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I am just waiting to see when Congress will open an investigation into GM's power steering problems. Yes, they too killed people - but of course, not as spectacularly as 'Yos did.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 1:31:03 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse kfinto: you got one thing right: the way most people think. Unfortunately, no one wants to pay more for technology that's not in the car they drive, but do you know how the manufacturers and dealers come up with the pricing of new car models? Those are spread across. Just that Lutz finally is coming out and confirming things.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 1:29:10 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hmm... is that why Congress is working so hard to discredit Toyota's electric vehicles?
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,909 Points:1,277,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:33:09 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse "retiring Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said" This is the thinking that turned the company in to Government Motors.
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,864 Points:992,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:55:11 AM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse Love your comment kfinto.
MUSTANGSRUS Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,379 Points:1,507,120 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 9:20:48 AM Ignore MUSTANGSRUS Report Abuse How many people really need a big truck or an SUV? Just a status symbol to most of them. Go by many factories and these vehicles outnumber regular cars. Why? Is it I can afford more than you can? Ridiculous.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,195 Points:1,406,540 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:59:15 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse I believe a small part of the future.
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:11,147 Points:1,654,015 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:05:25 AM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse hard to beleive anything coming from a company constantly playing management musical chairs. gm has been so out of touch for so long they don't know which way things are going.
CharlieC08 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,383 Points:1,152,250 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:04:08 AM Ignore CharlieC08 Report Abuse I doubt this will apply to the H.D. trucks and I'll stay with my diesel anyway.
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,772 Points:747,390 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:03:52 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse Almost anybody that owns one of these electric things needs a regular car in the garage as well. It's going to be a long time before these can serve as a direct replacement for the plain old gasoline powered automobile for several different reasons.
mswillia All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:802 Points:304,795 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 8:00:12 AM Ignore mswillia Report Abuse so we will be forced to purchase a hybrid? That adds a lot of expensive parts to the vehicle with little gas mileage gain if any! I would rather have a nice Diesel engine with torque to spare. How will I pull my camper? Now I have a Blazer S-10 and a 3200lb camper. There is no midsized SUV to pull this camper, so I have to purchase a large SUV that pulls it great but I have to live with lower mileage all the time. Now I get 20mpg without the camper and 10 with, but a Yukon would get 15mpg all the time.
Italianman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,733 Points:775,940 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:58:54 AM Ignore Italianman Report Abuse As long as they don't price themselves out of the market
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,480 Points:1,383,835 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:58:17 AM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse We'll see. Outgoing people can say anything they awant as it will not affect what they will do in the future. The new guy, now that's who we need to listen to.
Gastronomic Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,332 Points:1,728,175 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:57:04 AM Ignore Gastronomic Report Abuse He better say that or Obama might just pull the purse strings. If we would only drill for the oil we have here, it would solve so many problems.
mysub Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:6,877 Points:1,875,115 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:54:59 AM Ignore mysub Report Abuse kfinto, I'm totally with you on this one. What a stupid idea.
PFCASTA All-Star Author Worcester Posts:939 Points:1,338,205 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:50:58 AM Ignore PFCASTA Report Abuse Only if they make them affordable.
kfinto All-Star Author Texas Posts:614 Points:1,542,200 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:48:51 AM Ignore kfinto Report Abuse So to keep the cost of hybrid technology vehicles down, GM will spread the cost across GM's lineup??? Please keep making statements like that Lutz. I won't ever buy another Government Motors vehicle with that kind of thinking!
mlhog Veteran Author Minnesota Posts:329 Points:223,685 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:48:14 AM Ignore mlhog Report Abuse If they get better gas milage this time.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,281 Points:1,236,685 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:47:56 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse Its about time GM got in line on something.
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:4,973 Points:1,070,730 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:46:53 AM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse as long as these vehicles avoid recall city
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:5,419 Points:1,080,665 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:46:45 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Good luck with that "line" Bob. They still won't let you UNretire...I know it isn't a word, but neither is electricsarefuture.
phinsup67 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,936 Points:936,850 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:46:21 AM Ignore phinsup67 Report Abuse Our children won't even recognize what we grew up with as cars.
Chummy37 Champion Author Calgary Posts:1,566 Points:783,620 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:45:21 AM Ignore Chummy37 Report Abuse Electric vehicle batteries have to get smaller.
mooneagle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:7,092 Points:1,293,635 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:44:53 AM Ignore mooneagle Report Abuse buy a ford GM lies
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,638 Points:1,968,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:43:56 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse Lutz is a putz! If he can see the future, why didn't he see the meltdown as it happened to GM over the years?
techque Champion Author St. Louis Posts:6,373 Points:1,991,060 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:43:06 AM Ignore techque Report Abuse ?? price your entire vehicle line based on the most expensive versions !?! This will assure all the low and mid range sales go to others. NO MORE BAIL OUTS FOR GM !@!
rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:3,264 Points:1,030,815 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:41:51 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse I havent seen anything yet, but how is this going to affect the diesel trucks that are used to pull rvs?
BillHeatherL Champion Author Alberta Posts:5,330 Points:1,478,405 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:41:50 AM Ignore BillHeatherL Report Abuse hope the power company's can keep up
focusvt Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,057 Points:1,135,920 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:41:45 AM Ignore focusvt Report Abuse Bob Lutz will be missed by the Automobile Business.
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:6,639 Points:1,909,290 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:41:37 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse They had 75 mpg carburetor's in the 1980's but bowed down to the big oil companies and kept them off from the vehicles. So what is the hold up now??
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:6,117 Points:1,162,475 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:41:19 AM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Only if they make them affordable.
tbgasmizer Champion Author Ontario Posts:3,780 Points:789,270 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:40:09 AM Ignore tbgasmizer Report Abuse Yes electric will be expensive.
bcb_albany Rookie Author Albany Posts:41 Points:224,960 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:38:23 AM Ignore bcb_albany Report Abuse While I agree that plug-ins are the future, someone needs to convince the electric companies to pull the trigger and implement a country-wide smart grid now, IMHO. Huge investment, yes, but like the auto industry, they're not going to be allowed to go bankrupt. I really don't want to deal with roving blackouts/brownouts while they scramble to make infrastructure improvements down the line!
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,027 Points:1,540,265 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:35:42 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Progress in the SUV & truck market. There will always be a need for trucks.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:12,965 Points:2,607,585 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:35:08 AM Ignore bugc Report Abuse I'm a hybrid fan.
misterray Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,820 Points:656,685 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:34:53 AM Ignore misterray Report Abuse Thirty five miles per gallon by 202 is a big joke.
b899 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:2,772 Points:1,136,270 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:33:47 AM Ignore b899 Report Abuse who can afford a electric car?
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,958 Points:1,324,710 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:33:34 AM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse That did not take much inspiration to come up with, simply undeerstanding that things can not continue as is!
mark1962 Champion Author Albany Posts:3,390 Points:801,840 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:31:23 AM Ignore mark1962 Report Abuse They may be the future but will the rest of us be able to afford them and use them,
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,491 Points:1,627,635 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:29:38 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse If the guy in charge of rebranding the company thinks electrics are the future, I have no hope for the long term viability of General Motors. Plug-ins are a dead end. But he was pushed to the side-lines by the new team. I hope they have a better master plan. But Government Motors still has the UAW millstone, so this bankruptcy is just part of the road to oblivion (or divorce from the UAW).
bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:11,563 Points:1,501,265 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:28:32 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse I agre with Lutz too.
doncNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,194 Points:1,044,170 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:28:28 AM Ignore doncNJ Report Abuse Lutz is a good forward thinker.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:6,697 Points:1,624,575 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:26:23 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Lutz is right on!
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:9,185 Points:1,171,215 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:26:19 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse >Keep buying foreign autos and you will be out of jobs. It amazes me how ignorant some Americans are. < Sorry. Domestic manufacturers need to produce quality vehicles that we want to own and drive. The recent difficulties faced by Toyota (sorry to bring that up, MyVue08 -- I know you love the topic, lol!) demonstrate that foreign makes are not without problems. But VW and other Euro sources are formidable. This attitude from GM could succeed. We need to reduce dependence on foreign oil and electric vehicles assist with that. The grid does not stretch that far yet.
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:5,553 Points:1,636,230 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:26:02 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse The future is now....
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,799 Points:1,182,185 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 7:24:35 AM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse Why not? They improve fuel efficiency in all vehicles.